December 2000

	*snort X2 :D [CS]-AlphaTronics - Friday, December 29, 2000 | 10:46:34 PM
	Beh... The post was so long it made the page look messed heh To see the content of this post, I have submitted it as a writing at this URL: writings/aD%20and%20a%20match%20gone%20wrong.shtml Enjoy!

*snort [CS]-AlphaTronics - Friday, December 29, 2000 | 10:16:41 PM

100kdl got kicked off of STA for cheating.. hah Here's the documentation that I ripped off of the STA Site: To 100kdl, As you probably already know, we have been investigating a possible incidence of cheating. Let me give you all the details of the investigation. Shortly after the first round of play on 12/18/00, bM came to Bounce and said they felt something was wrong with your server settings. They felt something had been changed to render their HW’s ineffective. At that point we were unaware of any way to do this and bM was told to play the second round. They were also told if they could find any way to do it, to come to the STA and we would investigate. On 12/19/00 they approached Xris and had discovered that by shutting off the lag compensation in the net code, the HW’s would indeed be effected. They also provided the STA with a demo showing a number of instances where a scout ran around the HW hitting him with a crowbar and the HW was unable to kill him even though he was aiming directly at the scout. At that time, we started an official investigation into the situation. Valve was contacted and confirmed that this was possible and that it would have the described effect on the game play for the HW. Still not convinced, we ran a blind study with one of the bM HW’s who had played in the match. While on a game server, we tested three different setting and allowed him to try and kill us as a scout and soldier. We tested him with the net code on, with the net code shut off on the server and with the net code shut off on our end. He was never told which settings we were running at any time. At the end of the test, we asked the bM player which setting (1,2, or 3) felt like the game play had on your server on Monday night. He identified the setting with the net code turned off. The test also served one other purpose. It allowed us to see for ourselves the effect the different settings would have on game play. After the test was completed we went back and watched the demo again. It indeed looked just like our test when we had the net code shut off on the server. This was when we initially contacted you and asked for a valid explanation which you were unable to provide us. Packet loss and high lag do not produce the same effect. For these reasons, we have found 100kdl guilty of cheating by changing the game play without the knowledge of your opponents. STA does not take cheating lightly and for that reason, we find no other solution but to remove 100kdl from the league. You will not be allowed to reenter STA under this name or any other. STA-TFC Beretta Berserker Bounce Gemini Spinner Xris ZZRogue Speaking of cheating, I'm working on posting what exactly happened with our aD match a couple weeks back, should be up in a couple minutes.

	Merry Christmas [CS]-OmNiFraG - Sunday, December 24, 2000 | 3:02:46 PM
	I thought I should do a generic holiday post.

Progress Report [CS]-AlphaTronics - Tuesday, December 19, 2000 | 1:54:14 PM

In case you dont know about the complete site redesign, I'm doing a complete site redesign. Here's what I've got DONE: - Site format - 20 track music selector - New history movie part 1 Here's what isn't done (and the order that I plan on doing it): - New history movie part 2 (with all member names (and pictures in some cases)) - New selector at start of site (current one doesnt like flash 4, only flash 5) - Site functionality (how the menus will work, etc) - Complete conversion of all site content to the new design (this will be done last) - Site Introduction (may release this after redesign has already been done)

CS over SpAM on OGL [CS]-OmNiFraG - Saturday, December 16, 2000 | 11:07:21 PM

Round 1 crossover 2 120-20 This round started with SpAM being short 1 or 2. We had their Flag room pretty much camped and kept capping. Eventually, each team had an even amount of members and our capping slowed. SpAM pulled a couple by us. Round 2 Mulch_trench 60-0 They were again short... CS gets a few caps then SpAM gave up due to not knowing the map and being short GG SpAM Match Quotes: [SpAM]KungpaOspam(TEAM): tell em to go easy on me [SpAM]DrunkenBoxer(TEAM): no snipers? [SpAM]CanOfSpam(TEAM): we are going to lose [SpAM]Spamsonite(TEAM): trust me, we wouldnt have won anyways, we didnt prepare [SpAM]Bad Karma -MFD-(TEAM): Roger that! Let's run like hell! [SpAM]Spamsonite(TEAM): ya theyre pretty good Thanks again SpAM, GG!!

	We got that fire! [CS]-Karnage - Saturday, December 16, 2000 | 10:58:56 PM
	Ummm yea. This is Karnage. Just chillin testin my News thingy

	Holy shit! [CS]-AlphaTronics - Thursday, December 14, 2000 | 9:33:04 AM
	4 snow days in a row now.... This is a record for me heh. I forgot to add the good news to last night's post: While Slant/Cy/Roy have left, Riddler and Minty (under a new name: Karnage) have come back!

Busy day [CS]-AlphaTronics - Wednesday, December 13, 2000 | 9:43:24 PM

Wooooooooooooo 3 snow days in a row! (maybe 4, dunno :D) Anyway, today has been a wierd day, or at least the end of it. We had a meeting tonight about how the clan has been having a lot of infighting in CS, and as a result 3 people have left the clan. I wish them well in where-ever they go to in the future. The clan is going to have some bumps in the road, but were workin on it, and hopefully in the end we will be back to our old status of being friends instead of competitors. GG Slant(aka Enforcer), Cyanide, and Roybotnik, you've been more then clanmates, youve been friends. :..)

HUGEASS update [CS]-AlphaTronics - Monday, December 11, 2000 | 3:44:24 PM

I've been a lazy bastard :D Match vs BMS, OGL: Honestly, the match was so bad that Slanty was the only one who could find fun in it. Round 1 went ok, but it took literally 50 minutes to start round 2, when we stopped waiting for them to figure out how to run the ogl config on their server and tell them to come back to ours. Match vs aD, STA: This match was interesting to say the least. To make it easy for me (since im a lazy bastard, after all), I'll just post here what I sent to the TFL admins to help an ongoing thing going on between SMR and aD: Last night was an interesting match, to put it simple. After looking over the logs I found out just how deep this all really goes. From fakelag to possible pingbombs to delays to the match, aD had decided that they wanted to win this match at all costs. The following is a review of the evidence of this. The match started out slow, very slow. The reason of this was that some aD members claimed that they could not connect to the server, that it wouldn't come up in gamespy. We gave several suggestions on how they could connect, including loading tfc, typing in the pass, and then 'connect 198.69.87.69' (the server ip). For some reason, these people couldn't connect, until an STA admin got involved. Once that happened, they were all able to connect, and once they were there, they had an avg of 110 ping (Interesting eh? They dont get a response from the server, then connect with LPB ping.). Anyway, after 30 minutes of waiting for them, we decide to start anyway. Once inside the server, it starts to mysteriously give PL bursts every now and then, and since the server has NEVER acted like this in the past, the CS people start wondering whats going on while the aD crew starts mentioning going to their server (which we later discover they have a large ping advantage to us, I guess thats the motive, heres a quote on that:) 21:36:17: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): ad server we will woop 21:36:20: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): unless they play llamaish ------------------------------ Parts of round1 log (aD didn't feel like trading round2 for round1, oh well): ------------------------------ 21:05:26: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: because of the delay you created, we may need to reschedule round 2 21:05:27: aD.Echo(TEAM): Now playing as soldier 21:05:27: aD.Rev 6:8(TEAM): ENGAGING Incoming from WATER/YARD/UPPER ENTRANCE 21:05:29: aD.Rev 6:8(TEAM): REARMED - MY AREA IS LOCKED DOWN! 21:05:33: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: ok? Since a lot of our eastern people need the magical thing called sleep and also happened to have the curse of the bitchy parents (:D), some of our people wouldn't be able to play round 2, but in the end we were able to maintain a roster and did not need to rechedule the 2nd round. ------ Here are fragmented pieces involving the subject of the server spontaneously lagging: 21:10:56: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): wow thats interesting 21:11:05: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): considering this server NEVER lags 21:11:06: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): im getting ping bombed 21:11:14: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-(TEAM): no, the server is 21:11:21: aD.Phase9(TEAM): I am RESUPPLYING area OPEN 21:11:22: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): lets get balckice on this lol 21:11:24: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): seems like me =( 21:11:32: [CS]~masterMAN~(E)~+(TEAM): O: TAKING STAIRS!! (47/5) 21:11:32: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-(TEAM): its everyone at same time dont worry 21:12:18: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): lag 21:12:23: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): damn lag 21:12:32: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): holy shit this is bogus 21:12:32: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): definite ping bomb 21:12:45: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): ahhhhhhhhhh 21:12:45: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): report this 21:12:45: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): dude ec2 has never done this before, 21:12:45: [CS]-SlantedJohnson-Vr-nH(TEAM): tell them 21:12:46: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): this is lame 21:12:49: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): WAY TOO LAGGY 21:12:57: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: strange, the server is lagging on a regular basis, even when it hasnt for the last.. 6 months? 21:12:58: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): they come with scouts and fast classes 21:13:04: aD.K-Dogg: really laggyAT =*( 21:13:05: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): when it lags 21:13:16: [CS]-Cyanide: wonder why 21:13:16: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF: and it crashed for the first time in about 6 months right when the match was supposed to start' 21:15:39: [CS]-SlantedJohnson-Vr-nH(TEAM): JESUS CHRIST HOW GAY 21:15:53: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): this is gonna be the lamest match in STA history 21:16:42: [CS]-DeEzNuTs-BUS-|H(TEAM): OMG LAG 21:16:43: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): I LOVE PING BOMBS 21:16:53: aD[r].InFiltr8or(TEAM): i cant wait for our server B) Heres where it gets especially bad: 21:19:10: aD.K-Dogg: wow... 21:19:11: aD.KuRuption: this is not good cs 21:19:16: aD.K-Dogg: this is really not good 21:19:21: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: heh 21:19:22: [CS]-SlantedJohnson-Vr-nH: yea pingbombs suck 21:19:26: [CS]-Cyanide: the server was just fine before today 21:19:26: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: if you want me to say it i will 21:19:30: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: no wait slant said it for me 21:19:31: [CS]-DeEzNuTs-BUS-|H: i'm checking logs 21:19:38: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF: pingbombs blow 21:19:46: aD.KuRuption: how about our server? 21:19:50: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF: no thanks 21:19:51: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: ill call up the server admin after this round 21:20:13: [CS]-AlphaTronics-[e9]-: we could all play fine if you would call your script kiddie off 21:20:13: [CS]-SlantedJohnson-Vr-nH: it helps if it doesnt get pingbombed though And after the above, something very strange happens: the lag stops. Something about that tells me that this is beyond coincidence. Right when we mention 'pingbomb', the lag that was there when it never had before decides to stop. Notice what K-Dogg says in these lines about something that could have to do with the lag: 21:20:14: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): OFENSE 21:20:17: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): SEND SPIES 21:20:20: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): SEND YOUR LAGGY BUTT 21:29:08: aD.Phase9(TEAM): GO a 21:29:09: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): CRAP 21:29:09: [CS]-Cyanide(TEAM): heh 21:29:11: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): GO SPY 21:29:12: aD.Phase9(TEAM): ele 21:29:16: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): AND ADD FAKEWLAG 21:27:47: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): i'm adding fakelag 21:28:04: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): there we go babyu 21:28:12: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): can't hit me now can trhey:?? Nice eh? That sounds like a cheat right there. Wasn't valve supposed to have fixed the fakelag cheat a while back? ------ 21:34:51: [CS]~masterMAN~(E)~+(TEAM): DID IT 21:34:51: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF: WOOT 21:35:19: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): TAKE ScREESNSHOTS 21:35:21: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): WHO HAS A DEMO? 21:35:23: [CS]-Roybotnik-(E).dF(TEAM): ITS CUZ I GOT THAT ELE HWGUY 21:35:24: aD.K-Dogg(TEAM): we can blast them for this Wow... Blast for 'woot' (after our only capture on round1)! Doesn't have to do with cheating, just figured I should put that in :D Anyway, read thru that, make your own assumptions. Apparently once of our new recruit's, BloodBoiler, brother was watching the match, and after playing other clans with the 'anything to win attitude' (*cough ELB CNBL), it was the 'most llamaish match ive seen'. Bah enough of the bitchin, bg aD and may you rot in hell. *cough I've also started work on the new design, and some other updates to go with it. Once I get it all built and working, you will... rejoice! Here's my lil crappy drawing of what I'm going for (aka 'concept drawing', its amazing how you can make nasty drawings sound good): While you're all rubbing your eyes out with industrial cleaner, here's an old pic I found of the first site design, to make you wish you had never come here. BUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA being a newsie is fun :} Back in the day when I updated news by editing a file in notepad then uploading to ClanPages... Those were the bad ol days. I just got Q3F working the other day, noticing that I'd had a copy of Q3A for a few months now without touching it. The game is fun, but compared to how TFC plays, its got some things that I've found difficult, like seeing dark players on even darker backgrounds. Other then that, and how theres no timer (wheres my sexy voice dammit!), it's a really kikass game. GJ Q3F team! One thing that was slightly annoying, however, was how when I got the beta 'point update' (aka patch), it ended up fucking over Q3A instead of fixing it. I had to reinstall the entire thing, redownload Q3F, and get the '1.17' patch instead. Compared to id software, who made no attempt to make their patches compatable with each other when theyre supposed to be, valve seems a lot more competent nowadays...